RS Concept new mono1....PARABELLUM M1

[Peter Kovac]

Hi all.

Till now it was kept in quiet as much as we decided and looks this weekend we will make the launch.

Our new baby the PARABELLUM M1.

some spy pics...follow the *bunny*

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/120704/Resize_of_2012_0618_175619AA_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_. jpg (http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/120704/Resize_of_2012_0618_175619AA_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_. jpg)
A képet a Képfeltöltés.hu tárolja. http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/120704/Resize_of_2012_0618_180004AA_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_. jpg (http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/120704/Resize_of_2012_0618_180004AA_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_. jpg)
A képet a Képfeltöltés.hu tárolja. http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu

[Doctor ES]

hello peter,

and congrats to the new design!
it seems that you do a little less angle than your last boats? and the front part; has it less angle than the rear? ( sideview )

doc :)

[V9Fan]

Hi Peter,

looks like a combination of LaFuria V2, lowered 5-10mm, with deck of El Fuego?

[Peter Kovac]

Hi all.

Right Iv changed but not so dramatically the Furia V1 and V2 concepts dimensions and also optimalised the Fuego V2 tunnel type deck design. I can say that this my designs drilled some results in the world so no question regarding the usefull backup. We used some simulations with help of a dedicated institute. So this time little scient was added to the praxis. The master was CNC milled for high accuracy.
How this conception will work, soon we wil know.

But we need to do something to keep the balance of top boats and not to see only asian hulls. Right?

[Larger]

Richtig.:prost:

Heiko

[V9Fan]

In my humble opinion Etti hulls are not so superior as it seems.
But there is a belgish team who nearly ALL using this hulls. They share all experiences about this boats and pushing each other to the limits. I dont know any other team who works similar with other hulls.

I talked a few times with Dariusz about RS concept hulls, but we are to far away to test together and so we meet us only in competition.

[MiSt]

In my humble opinion Etti hulls are not so superior as it seems.
But there is a belgish team who nearly ALL using this hulls. They share all experiences about this boats and pushing each other to the limits. I dont know any other team who works similar with other hulls.

That's a good point, and what is always totally underestimated (although mentioned in your signature, Frank ...): A hull is only a basis for trimming skills (teamwork will help a lot, RS's hulls needed a lot of rework partwise ...) and DRIVING SKILLS (teamwork will not help here, but especially the belgians have a beautiful lake with permanent buoys in proper official shape for training ... I am so jealous every time I visit them in Aarschot for racing )

[Sika]

Some of the Belgians have very long experience racing Monos and as long as I remember they focus more on corner speed than on top speed. That gives high lap number. I remember many, many years ago there was a guy from Belgium racing in Mono 1 in Moers. While everyone was using brussless motors, he ran an 540 car motor. He had the slowest boat - but he ended up with 2 laps more every heat than anybody else - a very clear win.

Concerning ETTI hulls I was told that there are various types and modification of those hulls around. Most of the sold standard hulls I have seen did not perform nearly as well as the ones the Belgians race, so this might be true.

Another point that I was told is that the Belgians really push their equipment to the limits. With their very close connections to ETTI in China they have access to very special race LiPo cells - which put out significantly more capacity, but are dead after 2-3 runs. At least so far most of the racers here in Germany don't want this.

Anyways, good to see new hulls on the market. Keep up your good work Peter.

Joerg

[ivo]

Another point that I was told is that the Belgians really push their equipment to the limits. With their very close connections to ETTI in China they have access to very special race LiPo cells - which put out significantly more capacity, but are dead after 2-3 runs. At least so far most of the racers here in Germany don't want this.


Joerg

Sorry Joerg but that is just not true. Most of the time they run zippy's an win with them.

But what makes them so succesfull is training and testing and nothing more.
They are 4-5 guy's and the run almost every weekend no mather what the weather is. Except when the water is frozen.
They run 40-45 weekends a year and always together whith several people.
What also helps a lot is that most of them are former top rc car drivers.
When you see for example Bart driving you will understand, his trottlefinger works 10 times harder then his steering finger.
If i run his mono 2 i will be at least 30sec short on runtime, he has 30sec to spare with the exact same setup.

Ivo

[ivo]

Some of the Belgians have very long experience racing Monos and as long as I remember they focus more on corner speed than on top speed. That gives high lap number. I remember many, many years ago there was a guy from Belgium racing in Mono 1 in Moers. While everyone was using brussless motors, he ran an 540 car motor. He had the slowest boat - but he ended up with 2 laps more every heat than anybody else - a very clear win.

Joerg

Again experience and training. He does not run his boats a lot abroad but Luc was already a competiter at the WorldChampionschips in Rotterdam in 1985.
And he is a very experienced rc rac driver. That's how he learned to tune a car motor to brusshless performance.

There is little magic or better equipment in top performance.

Ivo

[Sika]

Ivo, as i said, I was told that ETTI supplies some of the Belgian racers with special race cells. I don't know if this is true or not.

The official 3s 4500 from last year were on the very edge in Mono, so a cell with lower C rating and more capacity could be possible. With 7200 in 2s coming, I would guess similar 3s 4800+ are possible. But with very short lifetime.

In my above post I was trying to explain that the good lap results most likely have other reasons than "special" equipment. As many years back in Moers, it is probably setup and driving skills - like you also point out now. These guys know what they are doing. And like Peter said, its most likely not the boats that so dominant - its the drivers.

Joerg

[Peter Kovac]

Hi Guys,

thanx for clearing some mess...this is not the the right place for that.

Btw. I own two etti hulls for learning another school and will use them during the season. The future maybe comes with new- for me new- ideas.

So back to the new baby... sure next weekend it will run on the 4 nations Hungary event, my colleague plans to test it this Saturday- Sunday.

some pics... first comparison with Furia V2

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/120706/Resize_of_P6090014_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/120706/Resize_of_P6090014_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg)
A képet a Képfeltöltés.hu tárolja. http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/120706/Resize_of_2012_0619_232700AA_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_. jpg (http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/120706/Resize_of_2012_0619_232700AA_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_. jpg)
A képet a Képfeltöltés.hu tárolja. http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu

[Robert]

Hi Peter,

you have an amazing adustable trim. Really great made. Well done !!!

If you want to improve the mechanic, you should take the adjustable rod to a smaler angle(more into horizontal direction), and let the servo rod attachment at its high place. As a result, you will get more power in your trimm adjustment, and at the same time your servo will not get enforced so much load like before.

Cheers,
Robert

[Peter Kovac]

Hi Robert.

The trim hardware comes from my friend who designes RC helicopters...thats it what I can say. There is an internal part also (kind of pendellum arm) what support the strenght of trim servo.

Fact of no time, it looks the boat will hit the water this Wednesday... sure as Ill have info let you all know.

you see.... boat is ready long time ago and no feedback....this is the problem with european developement. Compare this with our asian colleagues time management...and not be surprised. hm

follow the *bunny*

[Peter Kovac]

Hi

Succesfull weekend race.

The sofisticated deck design helped to keep the boat in any postiton on water, we did not have any flip during the weekend.
Turning ability excellent, topspeed same as fast- fast etti boats, consumption radiculous (kV 3400, prop 39,8mm!!!) so we are looking forward with big dose of optimism for the coming year.
Tiny turnfin mods and small ballast play will be OK.

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/120820/Kom_rno-20120818-02343_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/120820/Kom_rno-20120818-02344_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

and the little- big fun and surprise...mini Parabellum prototype.Here we used a not common in model boats building direct mould technology...we milled the mould in negative-directly into a piece of tooling slab...

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/120820/Kom_rno-20120818-02346_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/120820/Kom_rno-20120818-02355_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

[PSYCHO]

wow ! Peter, this really a good work. and a very nice mini mono !

LG Ralf